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At 10:29am on April 12th, 2008, Sue Dent said…: I just posted and I don't see my post so I'm going to repost. I hope I don't sound redundant. :)

Well, Heather, those are just the facts, ma'am! LOL As I said my publisher is a traditional Christian publisher. They publish books for the general Christian market. They pay advances, standard royalties and have a distributor with legitimate and strong ties to Baker & Taylor and Ingram the two largest and main wholesalers. CBA and ECPA distribute through Ingram/Spring Arbor. So does my publishers distiributor. Only they distribute through so many other channels as well. Spring Arbor is handles Ingram's "Christian" (not meaning CBA or ECPA here-all Christian) books. So yes, you can find books published by my author all over the planet in every bookstore and at every venue on-line that so chooses to carry it. That's why one looks for a "real" traditional publisher. BTW most take stories written by Christians. If it's toooooo Christiany, well then, maybe you do fit the CBA/ECPA niche market. :)

Very easy to find a Christian traditional publisher or at least no harder than finding any publisher. Writersmarket.com has all publishers listed and even has a category for Christian. Just remember not all Christian publishers are under this category. Some just choose to hang out in the general publishers category or maybe a genre category. :)

You won't find any book that isn't published by CBA or ECPA in a Christian bookstore (in volumes that matter) because Christian bookstore owners have been led to believe that CBA and ECPA books are all Christians want to read. Isn't that nice!

No big deal though. B&N and other larger booksellers have their own Christian sections where they place books by all Christian authors, affiliated or not. Ironically, most Christian authors who don't write for a niche market want thier books on the shelf with all the other general market books.

At 9:52am on April 12th, 2008, Heather Goodman said…: I hadn't heard it described like that. Interesting. I assume your pub is able to sell through independents, B&N, Borders, Amazon, etc. I'll have to do some research in this area. How did you find your publisher?

At 8:18am on April 12th, 2008, Heather Goodman said…: You know, I've been rethinking the whole CBA/ABA question. The house you've published with--which do they fall under?

At 7:35pm on March 28th, 2008, Sue Dent said…: Yikes! I commented on the previous but I think I may have done it in another thread. Where is that map when you need it! LOL So let me try here. Those "some" referred to as wanting to challenge Christianity to be be a patron of the arts "in this field" best do it in a market receptive of their efforts. CBA and the ECPA aren't interested. And why would anyone try to do something through a market that isn't acommodating when there are plenty of other publishers already addressing the market CBA and ECPA seem fit to ignore.

I hardly consider CBA or ECPA adolescents. They've been at what they're doing for quite a while and are very good at appealing to their niche market of conservative evangelicals. Hey, they even manage to appeal to some outside their market every now and then! :)

At 1:12pm on March 28th, 2008, Heather Goodman said…: I think CBA is in its adolescents--all awkward knees and elbows. Some are ready to push through this, not to abandon the niche it's been fulfilling but to expand and broaden, to challenge Christianity to be a patron of the arts in this field too. The question is--can we do it? Or will it be stunted?

At 12:35pm on March 28th, 2008, Sue Dent said…: LOL It doesn't take much to get me going!! Just ask John Cook. *waves at John* I've just watched sooooo many prospective authors who are Christians get mowed down by the CBA "if you don't write for our niche market you aren't a Christian writer" bandwagon, that I'm sick, sick, sick.

God guided me right into the mainstream of Christian publishing and I avoided that cruel twist of fate. "What? Poo is a "wordy dird!" Horrors! But Dekker can say it! Oh, Dekker is different. I see.

So that write for a niche market. Big deal. It's clearly a money making market . . . so they got that going for them. *thanks Cyn for the caddy shack remembrance.* I just refuse to let a niche market define an industry. Good grief! I have to say the word Poo! It's vitally essential to my work. :)

*slinking back behind rock now*

At 12:25pm on March 28th, 2008, Brandon Satrom said…: Hey Sue, Welcome to Intersection! Loved your first board comment and look forward to your presence here.

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